A good point to argue but the weakness is that it assumes that Jehovah and Eve existed, both characters being drawn from a dodgy book of fiction.
Half banana
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Why did Jehovah allow Eve to become pregnant?
by moomanchu injehovah reminds me of married couples who are having problems who decide to .
have children to improve their lot.. obviuosly jehovah can prevent pregnancy.. 1 samuel 1:5,6 .
but to hannah he gave a double portion because he loved her, .
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Jephthah's daughter : A shining example of singleness
by Diogenesister inreally watchtower?
jephthah's daughter as an example of what a girl wants to be when she grows up??.
a burnt offering?!!.
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Half banana
Yes Xanthippe, just who are these GB idiots trying to fool? Don't they realise that the average JW however zealous, also has a sex drive?
I am getting the impression that the GB now know that the game is up for them but they're still power mad. They know the faithful, like Pavlov's dogs, will respond to their words but to demand that single sisters to remain single is a step too far. Do as we say not do as we do! The GB are out of touch with the real life.
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Film showing the pyramid beliefs of early JWs and the end coming in 1925
by Crazyguy2 inhttps://youtu.be/s2snv8syqvu.
apparently the jws were still using russell’s pyramid measurements to push the end for 1925 too.
here is the film anyone know it they used pyramidolgy to push the other previous dates like 1918?
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Half banana
Education the Watchtower way:- first have your beliefs then find some facts and make them fit round your beliefs then say they must be true because God cannot lie. (and Jehovah's Witnesses are not capable of a critical evaluation of WT statements)
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Is this how you saw your Armageddon? I sure did :(
by Diogenesister ini think most of our imaginations of the new world was probably nothing like the watchtower reality.
after all, we jws are very good at avoiding uncomfortable truths!
you can tell micheal jackson was a certain type of jehovahs witness.
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Half banana
I confess that at the time of being a witness I didn't really dwell on the nuts and bolts of how Armageddon might take place. I was probably thinking that if Big J was going to do it then he would manage it OK for the faithful. Just writing this makes me feel an idiot, fancy believing such childish nonsense of Armageddon and paradise in the first place.
The trend now is that the GB are no longer allowing for an easy passage into the "new world".
The governing body have introduced a new and sinister element namely a fear of secular authority coming for them with all the force it has.This scenario seems to be based on a drama of aliens (JWs) being sought after and hunted down during wartime. This is creating a raised anxiety level which the GB are milking in their favour, demanding the flock listen even more carefully to what they call "God's organisation".
As the JW religion declines in influence, as with all failing cults they have to ramp up the fear and loyalty to compensate.
And in the meantime its back to the doctors for another anti-depressant............
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This Is It...
by JW_Rogue injust finished watching the talk by tony morris on john cedars channel.
sounded to me that he was hedging his bets.
on the one hand he says "this is it" and out of the other he says prophecies are best understood after they are fulfilled.
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Half banana
Bible prophecy is completely useless-- and I stress completely. Since when has it ever helped individuals?
But GB interpretation of useless Bible prophecy is worse than useless, it actually harms people and wastes their lives.
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JW trolleys - London
by HB inthought you might like to know that during a visit to london yesterday, the jw's were conspicuous by their complete absence.
admittedly it was a tuesday in february, but myself and my ex jw friend thought we would see at least one or two trolleys in their usual haunts, but nothing.
we checked out the area around westminster station where we have talked to jws before, but there was no sign.
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Half banana
Yes HB, I noticed that the West End of London no longer has a trolley presence like it did about four years ago.
I used to enjoy what I call witness baiting and had some useful discussions not always revealing that I had been a JW. At the start of the trolley business perhaps the org wasn't so aware of the 'danger' of apostate interest in them.
One problem which demonstrates how ineffective they are is from the fact that where they have been standing, it has been my experience that they are usually talking to other passing JWs who have stopped to socialise, preventing either a spread of JW gloom or our apostate enlightenment.
I think this also emphasises as Redvip alludes, that a key element of jwism is membership of an exclusive but deluded social club--and people feel very safe in their own club.
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Life as a Perfect Human in the New System of Things
by RubaDub ini have always wondered how basic things that we do to ourselves will be handled as "perfect" human beings.. i recall someone here had a quote from an old wt that said that if we fall off a roof or something that there will be some "force" to soften the fall and we will not be injured.. but, as a perfect human, if we travel to mexico and drink water from the tap, will we get the squirts, flying shits, montezuma's revenge, or whatever you wish to call it?
maybe we will be protected as perfect human beings and have colons that also are perfect.
but who knows.. just pondering these common things that we take for granted.. rub a dub.
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Half banana
The idea of perfection is a strictly religious notion, only religious people consider the possibility. The average common sense thinking intelligent individual knows that there is no such thing as perfection. The more it is talked about the sillier it seems.
Life is unpredictable, we can't know our own future and we are all susceptible to accident and sickness. Religious hope is the only escape but it never delivers. Better to enjoy what we have and appreciate the that the life we have now is precious.
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Awake 1990 "I'm Afraid I'll Get Disfellowshipped.
by Fabian inagain cleaning/organizing my huge collection of jws books, i happened to go now pick up the 1990 awake and stumbled on this march 22, 1990 page 27. .
it is true that one cannot back out of a dedication to god.
(compare ecclesiastes 5:4.
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Half banana
Yes it's a common event among JWs, you dedicate yourself to God but later you realise that God is a fiction.
I reckon that cancels the dedication and means you can be yourself again.
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Great Announcement
by Tiana inam a newcomer.
had a starnge metting in local news last night.. check it out.
actual info starts at 50;12. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plxdjs13l0k.
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Half banana
Well some of them look like they have been eating as if there is no tomorrow.......
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Part II: it's time
by Gorbatchov inearlier i posted about the call from close family about that the end is expected in very short time.. today i had the opportunity to speak in person.. this is what is told to me:.
- the gb speaks to us personality through broadcasting;.
- the annual meeting was a very clear message from the gb;.
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Half banana
Thank the gods for Novocaine!
For me one of the best improvements over the last century has been the great increase in life expectancy. In the nineteenth century you could expect a life of say 18 years as a youngster and 30 or so years as an adult if you were lucky-- and didn't get consumption or some other incurable ailment. Today most people in the western world reach 65 and if you do there is also a statistical likelihood that you will reach your late seventies or eighties which is now the average age for death.
That means that we have doubled our adult life span since 1914, i.e.18+60 years. Longevity is by no means the only improvement, the quality of life has vastly altered much of it through improvements in medicine and technology. Not forgetting the dramatic drop in numbers of death by infectious diseases, child mortality rates dropping, education becoming universal, number of deaths from wars and murder also having declined and extreme poverty now speedily being eradicated worldwide.
OK its not paradise, there is a dark shadow on the horizon namely by threats from Muslim fanatics who sacrifice themselves for their Islamic theocracy and refuse to see life from a human perspective.
Overall, it has to be reckoned that the world is nevertheless a far happier and healthier and a more equitable place than in the past and JW curmudgeons have their twisted "theocratic" reasons why they refuse to recognise it.